Corona virus

[MGD109]

The data from the simple construct of "Excess Mortality" should bury forever the blank brained deniers who posit "Covid is a nonexistent fake".

It is fairly compelling evidence to show Covid is a serious issue, I was surprised at the level of underreporting in the USA.

[Richard230]

My newspaper today covered a story about Austrian protesters marching against vaccine requirement mandates. The article was written by Emily Schultheis and Kirsten Grieshaber, and published by the AP. What I noticed was that the report included a statement that some of the marching protesters were wearing tin foil hats. Obviously, they were fully protected by both the virus and Jewish space lasers.

[Lag]

Ohhh,,,, Social Media,,, what have we done,,!!

[Daboo]

UK Health Security Agency Releases Data Shows Most COVID-19 Deaths in England are Fully Vaccinated

The UK Health Security Agency released its weekly COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report in England as of 18 November 2021 (week 46). The data was broken into 10 year age groups. From the age group of 50 and older, there were more COVID-19 deaths from people who were fully vaccinated than not.

HUGE: CDC and Big Pharma Data Confirm that More Children will Die from COVID Vaccine than from the COVID Virus

The FDA Produced First Batch of ‘Confidential’ Vaccine Docs — Now We Know Why It Will Take 55 Years



And you want to trust the FDA with your life? Over 1200 people died above. When 5 people died of the Asian Bird Flu vaccine, they pulled it off the market. But nah...let's jab everyone.

You have to wonder if the people at the top who are calling the shots actually got the vaccine. Before you dismiss that as a crazy idea, consider this. If you have an old feable man who is getting the booster shot...on a fake White House stage set...what would you do if he had an adverse reaction with all those cameras rolling? It'd sure be hard to push the vaccines if the prez needed to be resuscitated.

Chris

[MGD109]

UK Health Security Agency Releases Data Shows Most COVID-19 Deaths in England are Fully Vaccinated

Look beyond the headline and you will see that the WORSE CASE I'll repeat just in case you missed that WORSE CASE improvement in mortality is in the over 80s which is nearly 4 TIMES LESS LIKLEY again in case you missed it I'll repeat nearly 4 TIMES LESS LIKLEY to die from covid-19 if you are vaccinated (both single and double jabbed) than not vaccinated. In simple terms the headline omits that around 97% of over 80s in the UK are vaccinated so if the vaccine was useless for every unvaccinated death you would see 32.333 vaccinated deaths, if the vaccine has harmful for every unvaccinated death there would be more than 32.33 vaccinated deaths there are 8.6 vaccinated deaths for every unvaccinated in this age group for the week referred too. That figure improves dramatically with reduction in age and getting double jabbed.

[Daboo]

From Reuters:

Breakthrough infections raise health, death risk; vaccine passports without testing allow cases to be missed

COVID-19 is generally less severe in vaccinated patients but that does not mean breakthrough infections will be benign, a large study shows. Researchers analyzed data collected by the U.S. Veterans Affairs Administration from 16,035 survivors of breakthrough infections, 48,536 unvaccinated COVID-19 survivors and nearly 3.6 million uninfected people. At six months after infection, after taking their risk factors into account, people with breakthrough infections had lower rates of death and long-term lingering health problems than COVID-19 patients who had not been vaccinated. But compared to people who never had COVID-19, those who had breakthrough infections had a 53% higher risk of death and a 59% higher risk of having at least one new medical condition, particularly problems affecting the lungs and other organs. Even when breakthrough infections did not require hospitalization, the increased risks of death and lasting effects were "not trivial," the research team reported on Monday on Research Square ahead of peer review. "The overall burden of death and disease following breakthrough COVID-19 will likely be substantial," the researchers conclude.

[MGD109]

From Reuters:

Breakthrough infections raise health, death risk; vaccine passports without testing allow cases to be missed

Proper News article raising genuine concerns about Covid Breakthrough cases. We always new breakthrough cases would occur they do with all vaccines. The conclusion of the article for those who may be intreseted.

Masks, social distancing still worthwhile

Mask wearing and physical distancing are tied to reductions in the spread of COVID-19 and should be continued, according to researchers who reviewed 72 previous studies. When they analyzed results from eight of the studies in detail, they saw a 53% reduction in the incidence of COVID-19 with mask wearing and a 25% reduction with physical distancing. There is not yet enough data to confirm the overall benefits of more stringent measures such as lockdowns, school and workplace closures, and border closures, the researchers reported on Thursday in The BMJ. Very few of the studies analyzed were randomized trials, so they cannot prove the interventions directly reduced infection rates. Still, the researchers conclude, "It is likely that further control of the COVID-19 pandemic depends not only on high vaccination coverage and its effectiveness but also on ongoing adherence to effective and sustainable public health measures."

So keep wearing the masks and try to keep some physical distance.

Stay safe everybody

[Gunther]

Itìs a plot to keep us healthy and safe... Vaccines, speed limit controls, no alcohol while driving. This world is going crazy.
Anyway, vaccines won't work; I'm trying to attract metal objects and nothing happens, also I tried to connect my brain with others and, again, nothing happened. The only good new is we don't need a thin foil hat over the helmet

[Daboo]

Los Angeles Covid Surge Defies ‘Vaccine’ Narrative: The Most Vaxxed Areas Are Now Most Heavily Infected

How do you confuse a government health official? Show them statistics that compare percentages of vaccinations in areas with surges in Covid-19 cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. They will perform Olympic-level intellectual gymnastics in order to avoid the most obvious conclusion: High vaccination levels equate to higher Covid-19 surges.


...Seven of the ten most vaccinated areas in Los Angeles make up the top of the list for most infected, most hospitalized, and most deadly. This tells any thinking person beyond a shadow of a doubt that research must be done to either prove the obvious or discover something we all missed. Instead of research, we’re getting canned responses and a plethora of excuses that point away from the most common sense answer on the table.

It's like that around the world.

VAERS Data Reveals 50 X More Ectopic Pregnancies Following COVID Shots than Following ALL Vaccines for Past 30 Years

While we reported on Saturday that the latest data dump into the government’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) showed 2,620 fetal deaths, which are more fetal deaths than are reported following ALL vaccines for the past 30 years in VAERS, one “symptom” that is tracked in VAERS that I did not account for, is an ectopic pregnancy which also results in a fetal death.

With Low Vaccination Rates, Africa’s Covid Deaths Remain Far Below Europe and the US

In any case, the World Health Organization reports that covid deaths in Africa make up only 2.9 percent of covid deaths, while Africa’s population is 16 percent of the global total. Africa’s covid total could double or triple, and Africa would still be faring far better than Europe and the Americas.


Wamai et al. also note that at this point “[i]t is likely that SARS-CoV-2 has already been widely disseminated through Africa…. If so, widespread infection is likely to also result in widespread natural immunity.”


In other words, continued claims by health officials—both in Africa and elsewhere—that mass death is right around the corner with the “next wave” look increasingly implausible.


It looks increasingly likely that the lack of covid mortality in Africa is not due to a data issue nor a situation in which covid has been “contained” up until now. So then why is Africa doing so much better than the wealthy West?...



In the West, however, the media drumbeat around covid has consistently been “Shut up, stay home, get jabbed, and stop doubting the experts on forced vaccines.” Fortunately, however, the African situation has forced many researchers to ask inconvenient questions.


In fact, it’s amazing Africa has not been overcome by mass death considering that covid lockdowns and covid “mitigation” measures have contributed to the impoverishment and mass starvation on the continent. Or as Germany’s DW News puts it, “Measures put in place to slow the spread of the novel coronavirus are pushing millions of people in Africa into severe hunger.” And as Wamai notes, “[S]ome of the excess deaths in Africa “can be attributed not to the disease, but to lockdown measures that cut off access to medical care for other illnesses.”


But Africa hasn’t gotten the bloodbath that was promised, and as one Nigerian put it, “They said there will be dead bodies on the streets and all that, but nothing like that happened.”

[Richard230]

Itìs a plot to keep us healthy and safe... Vaccines, speed limit controls, no alcohol while driving. This world is going crazy.
Anyway, vaccines won't work; I'm trying to attract metal objects and nothing happens, also I tried to connect my brain with others and, again, nothing happened. The only good new is we don't need a thin foil hat over the helmet

They are trying to keep us alive so that we can buy more stuff on Amazon and Ebay.

[Gunther]

I thought it was a plot to control our DNA

[Daboo]

Okay, maybe you folks in the Tin Hat Society can help me figure this out.

Dozens of Vaxxed Athletes Are Suddenly Collapsing and Nobody’s Allowed to Ask Why

There’s an extremely inconvenient truth for vaxx-nannies that is quietly surfacing across the globe. Professional athletes, who are among the healthiest people on the planet, are collapsing with inexplicable and sudden heart conditions, often while in the middle of playing their games. The only common thread among them is that they were all recently injected with the Covid-19 jabs.
Unfortunately, this truth is being kept under wraps. Nobody’s allowed to state the obvious or ask questions that could expose the reality of great harm being caused by the vaccines.

THIS TIME THERE’S VIDEO: Adama Traore Is Latest High-Profile European Soccer Star to Collapse on the Pitch During European Match

https://twitter.com/i/status/1463834665576550400


Video: Live Feed Cut As Former Pro Asks If Latest Footballer Who Collapsed Is Vaccinated
“I think everyone wants to know if he’s had the COVID vaccine?”

After another professional football player collapsed on the pitch and was rushed to hospital in England this week, one former pro who was commenting on the incident questioned whether the player had been recently vaccinated, prompting the live feed to be suddenly cut.

Sheffield United player John Fleck, who is 30 years old, suddenly collapsed away from play and had to be taken off on a stretcher after receiving lengthy treatment and being given an oxygen mask.

Premier League legend and former England international player Matt Le Tissier has also called for an investigation into why so many players are collapsing with heart issues:

But the official narrative is that the gene therapy drugs are perfectly safe. That doesn't make sense with what is happening on film to extremely healthy and fit people.

What does make sense is some of the pictures that others have taken of the red corpuscles changing from round to elongated and becoming sticky...making them clog blood vessels leading to myocarditis and pericarditis.

It might just be coincidence, but the experimental gene therapy injections being given to children have an additional chemical used in the treatment of heart attacks.

Tromethamine (Tris) is a blood acid reducer which is used to stabilize people with heart attacks.

Now if you go to that link, you'll read where the Tromethamine is added to make the "vaccine" easier to store. Wow...that's great! Then why haven't they added that to all the "vaccines"? There's not a good answer for that question...unless it is to alleviate heart issues with children's smaller blood vessels.

From the CDC's website: (Emphasis theirs, not mine.)

Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle, and pericarditis is inflammation of the outer lining of the heart. In both cases, the body’s immune system causes inflammation in response to an infection or some other trigger. Learn more about myocarditis and pericarditis.external icon Seek medical care if you or your child have symptoms of these conditions after COVID-19 vaccination.

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In other news that won't make the news in the MSM...

South Africa Medical Chief Says New COVID Mutation Has Only Produced “Very Mild Cases”

Despite a flurry of international panic over the new COVID mutation, South Africa’s medical chief says the issue is a “storm in a teacup,” noting that the country has only recorded “very mild cases” of the new strain.
Well that’s not gonna be very good for pandemic panic clickbait is it?

The WHO (not the rock band), has already named the new variant "Omicron". It sounds like something from the Transformers. Sort of a cross between Optimus Prime and Galvatron. It's a lot scarier than just "Delta" variant. That name didn't instill enough fear. The stock market is down almost 1000 pts. Travel from 8 countries in Africa is being restricted. Pfizer is being asked to be the new savior and make a new vaccine. And you will be told to lock down again in the next week or so.

Remember...if you test positive, you will get sick. If you get sick, you will get bad enough to go to the hospital. And if you test positive...you will die. Never forget that.

And all for a virus that you have over a 99% chance of surviving, and often have to be tested to even know you're sick.

How gullible do they take us for?

Chris

[ccwatchmaker]

Here is just a very small indication that you may not be reading accurate information Contrary to what has been reported from the website putting out this misinformation, pericarditis is not an inflammation of the outer lining of the heart.

Pericarditus is an inflamation of paricardium. Here from the Mayo Clinic site: "Pericarditis is swelling and irritation of the thin, saclike tissue surrounding your heart (pericardium)." The pericardium is not part of the heart, but rather the tissue that surrounds the heart. I have had it at least twice and can attest that it can be extremely painful. The cardiologist believed, at least in my case, that it is the result of a viral infection. It generally resolves itself. Pain medication and anti-inflammatory drugs are helpful in alleviating the symptoms.

...nobody is allowed to ask why? That sounds like absolute nonsense. Who would be disallowing anyone to ask? Do those of us who are not delusional really think that the New York Times or Washington Post would give a damn about not being allowed to ask why? To believe this garbage is to be suffering from some level of paranoia.

"How gullible do they take us for?" How gullible do you take us for?

[Daboo]

Here is just a very small indication that you may not be reading accurate information Contrary to what has been reported from the website putting out this misinformation, pericarditis is not an inflammation of the outer lining of the heart.

Perhaps you didn't read that it was a quote from the CDC??? You're right. We do get misinformation from the CDC.

...nobody is allowed to ask why? That sounds like absolute nonsense. Who would be disallowing anyone to ask? Do those of us who are not delusional really think that the New York Times or Washington Post would give a damn about not being allowed to ask why? To believe this garbage is to be suffering from some level of paranoia.

I guess you missed the part about how the microphone was cut when the commentator asked the question. Here's the link from above for you once again.

Video: Live Feed Cut As Former Pro Asks If Latest Footballer Who Collapsed Is Vaccinated
“I think everyone wants to know if he’s had the COVID vaccine?”

After another professional football player collapsed on the pitch and was rushed to hospital in England this week, one former pro who was commenting on the incident questioned whether the player had been recently vaccinated, prompting the live feed to be suddenly cut.
Sheffield United player John Fleck, who is 30 years old, suddenly collapsed away from play and had to be taken off on a stretcher after receiving lengthy treatment and being given an oxygen mask.

Premier League legend and former England international player Matt Le Tissier has also called for an investigation into why so many players are collapsing with heart issues:

It's not hard to find news articles on the censorship that's going on. Here's a few more. (I can find you about 50 more without any effort if you just ask. )

Dr. Mercola sues Elizabeth Warren for telling Amazon to censor “covid misinformation”

Back in September, Democrat Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote a letter to Amazon CEO Andy Jassy demanding an “immediate review” of the company’s algorithms for censoring “covid misinformation.” One of Warren’s primary targets for elimination at the time was Dr. Joseph Mercola’s “The Truth about COVID-19” book, a move that prompted Dr. Mercola to sue her in response.
According to Warren, Dr. Mercola’s book should not have been allowed to reach the number one slot on Amazon when searching for the words “covid-19” or “vaccine.” Warren wrote to Jassy that Dr. Mercola’s book contains “dangerous conspiracies” about the Chinese Virus and “false and misleading information about vaccines.”

“It asserts that vitamin C, vitamin D and quercetin … can prevent COVID-19 infection,” Warren lamented in her letter. “And the book contends that vaccines cannot be trusted.”
As a government official, Warren should know that trying to silence free speech is illegal. The First Amendment protects it, and for her to try to pressure a private retailer into overriding it is a serious constitutional breach, especially for a “public servant.”

Houston Hospital Suspends Doctor's Privileges Over COVID 'Misinformation'

Dr. Mary Bowden has had her privileges suspended from her job at Houston Methodist Hospital for ''spreading dangerous misinformation'' about COVID-19, The Washington Post reported.

Before anyone gets all hot and bothered about how she has prescribed horse medicine to people, over 200 members of Congress and their families have used it. It also was awarded the Nobel Prize in 2015 for treatment of infectious diseases.

New York physician assistant says she was told to stop reporting COVID shot injuries

Physician assistant Deborah Conrad said on a podcast that when she saw a flood of COVID-19 vaccine adverse events in the ER where she worked, she was told not to report them to VAERS, the U.S. government’s official Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System.Deborah Conrad is a physician assistant who worked at United Memorial Medical Center in New York for about 17 years.
Conrad appeared on The Sharyl Attkisson Podcast and shared her story of what she went through as the COVID shot was rolled out at the hospital she worked at for over a decade.
Conrad said she saw “heart attacks, cardiomyopathies, arrhythmias of the heart, blood clots, [and] pulmonary emboli” in January and February in patients who had taken the shot at the outset of the vaccine roll-out.

Evidence of heart disease after COVID shot exists but isn’t published out of fear, cardiologist says

A world-renowned cardiology expert warned of a link between the hastily developed COVID-19 injections and heart disease. He said on UK television that cardiology researchers have found evidence to support this, but are too afraid of losing money from the drug companies to publish the proof.

Gundry’s paper revealed that following the mRNA COVID injections, the chance of developing heart disease jumped from 11% to 25%.

"How gullible do they take us for?" How gullible do you take us for?

If you took that personally, that's your business. It wasn't directed at you.

[MGD109]

Okay, maybe you folks in the Tin Hat Society can help me figure this out.

Probably not. If you are unable to understand the simple construct that if all flu deaths, fatal motorcycle accidents, everybody who fell off a ladder killing themselves in the USA in 2020 were wrongly attributed to Covid-19 and this had grossly inflated the official Covid-19 fatality figures the excess deaths figures would bear this out, showing the true figure to be much less. It does not, shows the reverse in fact. If you are still in denial about this simple, provable fact, anything else will be a leap too far you.

[BoxerBits]

Not too much going on around Puget Sound these days then.

Just curious, how much of your day do you spend searching the internet looking for these tales?

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[Richard230]

BTW, I heard on the CBS national news this morning that when the Governor of New York heard about the new Omicron virus mutation he immediately declared a state of emergency, which if NY is anything like California, will allow him to govern by decree. As always never let a crisis (perceived or actual) go to waste. And that goes for both politicians and especially the news media of all types. And the internet news sources are the worst of the bunch. Plus of course, as always, that also applies to dictators and wannabe dictators.

[ccwatchmaker]

Richard, The Governor of New York is "she".

[Daboo]

Is that what "she" is identifying as today?

[Daboo]

Not too much going on around Puget Sound these days then.

Actually, it is not so much what's "going on" as it is what's "coming down".



Rivers are flooding. Lowlands are flooding. And as you can see, there's a long stream of moisture headed our way.

But since you seem to be asking for more info Nigel, here's a few other articles.

Top ICU Doctor Suspended After Suing Hospital for Banning Life-Saving Covid Treatments

In an exclusive interview with The Defender, Dr. Paul Marik said patients are dying “unnecessarily and unlawfully” because the hospital where he is director of the ICU prioritizes expensive drugs like Remdesivir while banning more effective and less costly treatments.

It's only coincidence that after bucking the system to get less expensive drugs available, that he was suspended permanently.

Explosive Interview, UK Cardiologist Highlights Link Between mRNA Vaccines and Heart Disease, While Noting Researchers Withholding Data Fearful of Losing Funding

Dr Aseem Malhotra exposes a link between mRNA vaccines and heart disease in an explosive British news broadcast. Mahotra also outlines other scientific studies that have confirmed the link between Acute Coronary Syndrome (ACS) in the aftermath of taking the vaccine, but the researchers are fearful to report them.

This one should raise the eyebrows of anyone who wonders if there's something more going on regarding the viruses, "vaccines", masks and lockdowns.

SHOCKING: BIG PHARMA Received Emergency Use Approval a Couple of Weeks Ago for COVID Variant Discovered a Couple Days Ago?

Novavax Inc (NVAX.O) said on Friday it had started working on a version of its COVID-19 vaccine to target the variant detected in South Africa and would have the shot ready for testing and manufacturing in the next few weeks.

The company’s COVID-19 shot contains an actual version of the virus’ spike protein that cannot cause disease but can trigger the immune system.

Does this strike anyone as being odd? Like how do you get EUA for a virus just discovered a couple days ago? Was it planned? Did the company get and advanced copy of the "actual version of the virus' spike protein before release?

Other companies are racing to get in on the bucks too. Do you think there'll be any testing before millions get injected? We're fools if we think there will be. Billions of dollars are at stake for whoever gets out their "vaccine" first. And if a few people get hurt in the process...well, as long as it isn't anyone I know, its okay.

World "leaders" are already using this new scary variant as an excuse to lock everything down once again. For a variant that appears to be like a bad cold.


I just checked. Still raining. Forums are quiet.

[Richard230]

Richard, The Governor of New York is "she".

Sorry, I am not up on New York politics. We need to have a universal he/she pronoun so that mistakes like that can't be made.

[Daboo]

Sorry, I am not up on New York politics. We need to have a universal he/she pronoun so that mistakes like that can't be made.

In some places like Micro$oft, you introduce yourself by all your preferred pronouns...and then describe what you're wearing too.

So Richard...are you sitting there in your skivvies?

[Richard230]

In some places like Micro$oft, you introduce yourself by all your preferred pronouns...and then describe what you're wearing too.

So Richard...are you sitting there in your skivvies?

No. I am wearing my armored kelvar-lined jeans. I like to be safe just in case the virus mutants come calling.

[scf]

Yes.
I am wearing a tin foil cape, hat & a condom & sunglasses.
Gotta stay one step ahead of the Jewish Space Lasers.

[Daboo]

You guys laugh, but let's see where this goes...

Ten OMICRON “variant” predictions for 2022 and beyond… globalist authoritarian playbook stripped naked

Here are my ten predictions for Omicron and 2022:
Prediction #1: Omicron variant hysteria will be used to reset everyone’s vaccine passports to zero, coercing people into a whole new round of vaccines for this new variant. Those stupid enough to go along with omicron variant vaccines will be signing up for a never-ending series of spike protein bioweapons injections, which will eventually kill them.

Prediction #2: Omicron hysteria will be exploited to justify aggressive vaccine mandates, demanding that this “new emergency” overrides all human rights, medical freedom and body autonomy.

Prediction #3: Although the omicron variant has so far only been found in fully vaccinated people, the lying corporate media will blame its origins on the unvaccinated.

Prediction #4: The omicron variant will be used as a cover story by the corporate media to try to explain away all the Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) deaths caused by covid vaccines. Even as vaccinated people die in large numbers, the media will blame the unvaccinated (see #3, above) and demand that unvaccinated people be completely locked down and denied access to society.

Prediction #5: Omicron hysteria will be used to attempt to criminalize dissent against vaccines, mandates, government “authority” or the covid criminals behind the gain-of-function research, such as Anthony Fauci. All such dissenting speech will be designated a “danger to society,” and those who utter such speech will be accused of killing people.

Prediction #6: Mass hysteria pushed by the journo-terrorist media will justify governors ordering more lockdowns, leading to more supply chain failures, product scarcity and price inflation.

Prediction #7: If the media can push the omicron hysteria with enough ferocity, it will be used to either cancel the 2022 mid-term elections or demand universal mail-in voting, citing the “extreme dangers” of anyone going out in public.

Prediction #8: Every economic failure caused by the incompetent, criminal Biden regime will be blamed on omicron. This imaginary “variant” instantly becomes the scapegoat for sky-high energy prices, supply shortages and empty grocery store shelves. The media will blame everything on omicron, and then they will blame omicron on the unvaccinated.

Prediction #9: At some point, either the omicron variant or the next one that’s unleashed will be used to justify door-to-door mandatory vaccines in America, along with the medical kidnapping of anyone who resists, taking them away to covid concentration camps for efficient extermination. (This practice has already begun in Australia, where the military is kidnapping indigenous people and taking them away to camps at gunpoint.)

Prediction #10: Omicron won’t be the last variant that’s used to evoke mass hysteria and multi-billion dollar government payouts to Big Pharma. This scamdemic will be repeated every year or so, in perpetuity, for as long as the people remain in fear and go along with it.

Looks like Prediction #6 is already coming true.

New York State Declares State of Emergency over Omicron Coronavirus Variant, Yet 100% Recent Sampled Cases Were Delta Variant

Hochul’s executive moves come despite the fact that New York has not recorded any cases of the Omicron variant.

"However, we continue to see warning signs of spikes this upcoming winter, and while the new Omicron variant has yet to be detected in New York State, it's coming," Hochul said.

South African Doctor Says Omicron Variant Produces ‘Mild Disease’

South African medical professionals are wondering why the world is reacting vociferously to the ‘Omicron Variant’ when it produces ‘mild disease’.The new Omicron variant of the coronavirus results in mild disease, without prominent symptoms, Angelique Coetzee, the chairwoman of the South African Medical Association, declared on Saturday, reported Sputnik News.
“It presents mild disease with symptoms being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well.

As Rahm Emmanuel said, "You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." ...Even if you have to make it up.

[Richard230]

There is a somewhat similar back and forth discussion being carried on with tongue-in-cheek on the Royal Enfield forum. One of the members is quite articulate and posted this comment, which I thought was very creative:

Actually Omicron prefers anti-vaxxers that fail to cite any sources and are primarily interested in trolling. And that's a "No Shit" story if there ever was one. Technically C19-Omicron is attracted to the neo-rheomagnetic residual field left on an unvaccinated motorcycle rider, especially if he/she rides a large displacement Indian pushrod single. The passage of a large piston near two valves stimulates a hypergravistatic attractor field, oscillating the nasopharynx & driving the virus into the riders neocortex, altering the mitochondrial alleles where the victim thinks up their next random undocumented passage, oddly enough causing the infected to write suggestions that increase the overall infection rate. This has parallels in the insect world, such as the Ophiocordyceps unilateralis fungus, which affects the actual behaviour of the ant in a contra-survival way. The only cure for this is a liter bottle of Ivermectin taken as a suppository with a Clorox chaser.

[Daboo]

Just a thought...

...if the new variant is so dangerous that New York is declaring an emergency...and it appears that we will need vaccine passports soon to travel...why is no one locking down the southern border? That's curious. We have over a million illegal aliens crossing the border, many who are sick and they are being flown to towns all across the USA.

Maybe it isn't so deadly and that's why it is being called the MEV (Midterm Election Variant).

Chris

[BoxerBits]

Sounds like dolorem in interiora variant to me.

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[TheMeteor]

Anti-vaccine televangelist Marcus Lamb dies of COVID-19 (msn.com)

[Richard230]

Anti-vaccine televangelist Marcus Lamb dies of COVID-19 (msn.com)

What goes around comes around. Karma strikes again.

[Daboo]

What goes around comes around. Karma strikes again.

I can't believe you guys are getting laughs off of other people dying, and families suffering.

[scf]

I wonder how many lives were lost due to this guy preaching anti-vax to his flock.
I suspect more than a few.

[TheMeteor]

I am not getting any laughs off someone dying. It is sad and did not have to happen. The choices he made probably were the difference in surviving versus death and impacted this man and his family. Worse, is that he preached his non-substantiated beliefs to others that may be vulnerable and open to manipulation - perhaps resulting in a similar outcome for them and their families.

To state again, I take no pleasure in someone's passing. I pointed it out so others may perhaps be open-minded and learn. His death did not have to happen but perhaps others may learn from it. This same record has been played too many times over the past year.

[Daboo]

I wonder how many lives were lost due to this guy preaching anti-vax to his flock.
I suspect more than a few.

My church doesn't preach "anti-vax" I can't vouch for any other church, but that's not what the pastor is to be doing. He's to be preaching the gospel message, not whether to take a shot, or not.

But the church I attend has had an interesting past that blows away the "science" that the MSM has been feeding everyone. When the lockdowns first began, we went to virtual services. When the possibility to meet outside presented itself, our elders worked with the local gov't to determine what they could do and stay within the rules. At the time, there was a limit to how many could meet outside. So our church set up two separate venues and was able to offer some opportunity to have some personal contact. Things opened up over the months and we were able to meet inside. We had thousands showing up, masks on.

I belong to a senior's group that meets in the morning. We're up to about 125 showing up. Some wear masks. 90% at least do not. I suspect 90% haven't had the "vaccine". This has been going on for most of the year. We're a bunch of older folks who have lived through a lot worse than this. And we're a bunch of older folks who have fought to preserve the freedoms that are being taken away from us, little by little. And no one told us we could do this. We just did it because we can think for ourselves.

The rest of the church followed suit a month after we removed our masks and started meeting freely. The seniors group has a packed room. You have to search to find an empty seat if you don't come early. The church services on Sunday mornings have a thousand packed in at the busiest services and we're holding four services a Sunday to find room for everyone.

No one is dying of COVID. I know of less than 10 who've been sick with COVID in the past two years. And for most, it has been like having a cold (also a coronavirus) for a couple days.

Why? We should be dropping like flies. We're not.

Explain how that could be, if the "science" is so infallible.

____________________________________________

Now...explain a couple more things because I don't see the logic at all.

• The US Post Office employees are exempt from a vaccine mandate.
• Congress and their staffers are exempt from a vaccine mandate.
• The NIH and CDC can't get their employees fully vaccinated. I believe the percentage is around 40%. What do they know, that you don't know?
• We're about to enact another set of travel restrictions. Fauci is demanding you get a test within 24 hours of your arriving in the USA. This is for a version of COVID with a scary name, but which has not caused anyone to be hospitalized.
• And if you're an illegal alien coming across the US's southern border...come on in. We don't want to test you at all.

You can't justify any of that except that the government wants to control you.

[TheMeteor]

Fact check: Postal workers to follow OSHA vaccine guidance (usatoday.com)

So Postal Workers are not exempted but Congress is...which highlights the government's hipocrisy and legacy of putting themselves above the regulations we lay folks are expected to follow. And they wonder why we have such disdain and they lose credibility.

Does not change whether vaccines work...but just shows the dysfunctional nature of politics and politicians.

[Daboo]

Does not change whether vaccines work...but just shows the dysfunctional nature of politics and politicians.

Thanks. I didn't catch that the Postal Workers got caught up in the mandate. They weren't initially.

I would say the nature of the current politicians is way beyond "dysfunctional". You don't make blunders like this. What they are doing is well planned and orchestrated. If you think it is by accident that they are enforcing vaccine mandates on everyone...except over a 1.7 million illegal aliens? Well...

Again...why are 4000+ people in tight quarters who aren't wearing masks and have probably half of them not vaccinated, not dropping like flies?


Then compare places like California with Florida. Why is Florida having such success in defeating COVID? They are staunchly resisting any COVID restrictions. People are moving there from places like New York.

If the "science" is true...then there's a lot of questions that the "science" isn't answering. Unless you want lockdowns to manipulate a population to accept something they wouldn't do normally.

[BoxerBits]

I can't believe you guys are getting laughs off of other people dying, and families suffering.

A somewhat hypocritical response based on some of your earlier posts.

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[Richard230]

If Marcus Lamb had been vaccinated with one of the Covid-19 vaccines he would most likely be with us and preaching today. I hope his passing can have his flock reconsidering that being vaccinated might save their life and the lives of the people around them.

[TheMeteor]

NJ just sent out their daily update on COVID cases, deaths and hospitalization. All numbers are up to the levels last seen around mid-April. Likely as more folks are spending more time indoors. Hospitalizations have climbed 50% since Nov 1 with nearly all of the hospitalized patients being unvaccinated.

[Richard230]

BTW, an article in my newspaper today claims that some states in the Southeast, such as Florida, are paying people not to be vaccinated by providing them unemployment insurance payments if they are fired from their company for refusing to be vaccinated.

The states that are paying people who get fired or quit for not getting vaccinated are (drum-roll, please): Florida, Iowa, Kansas and Tennessee. I wouldn't be surprised if this anti-vaccination scheme catches on in some other "red" states.

[Daboo]

And you guys still can't explain how 4000 people have been able to get jammed into a room together...without masks...without vaccinations..........and not catch COVID.

[TheMeteor]

Not having a vaccine does not guarantee one will contract COVID. You still have to be exposed to it. No having the vaccine just makes the likelihood of catching it higher - as well experiencing more serious symptoms or death. It's a numbers game and probability.

It's like riding a motorcycle under the influence. Not all crash but a very high percentage of serious motorcycle accidents do involve alcohol.

[Daboo]

Having over a thousand people in tight quarters defies any argument for that many people being in one area...and not spreading the coronavirus. As you said, it is a "numbers game and probability". Unless the underlying probability assumptions are wrong.

This is four services and almost 4000 people total showing up.

And the seniors group has a jam-packed room full of people who should all croak at a moments notice...if the underlying "facts" of how communicable the virus is are correct. Which leads me to believe those "facts" are propaganda.


So here's one of the things that really bothers me. If what I'm seeing and experiencing with my own eyes over almost the entire past year is true...then why is the government pushing everyone to get vaccinated? Even children down to 5 years old. Everyone under the age of 70, has a 99.9% chance of getting over this virus. Why in the world are we locking down our communities, and panicking? Unless it has nothing to do with anything "health" related and that's only a coverup excuse.

[MGD109]

And you guys still can't explain how 4000 people have been able to get jammed into a room together...without masks...without vaccinations..........and not catch COVID.

It's called "luck" probability is riddled with it. You roll a dice and it comes up 1, you can't see 6 on it anywhere does not mean there is no six on the dice.

Everyone under the age of 70, has a 99.9% chance of getting over this virus.

Really? Everything is cited in the link for you to check. If you mean "getting over this virus" as not dying then the 65 to 74 are 25 times more likely to die than you suggest. In terms of Long Covid I don't believe there is any point in raising this with you, but if you were to suggest to those that are suffering the effects months after catching the virus they have got over it they may not agree.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic

[BoxerBits]

Would you recommend people not to wear seatbelts on the basis that more people get injuries following a RTA who were wearing a seatbelt, when compared to the number who choose not to use the safety device.

A Simplistic view would be to say that the wearing of the seatbelt must be the cause.

A more rational view would take into account the relative size of the population who decided to wear the safety device against those who don't.

What would be your view Chris?

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[Daboo]

Luck is Lee Trevino walking outside in a lightning storm and holding a 1 iron up in the air while saying "Not even God can hit a 1 iron."

Court Orders FDA To Comply With FOIA and Release Information On Pfizer Vaccine – First Batch of Documents Shows Over 1,200 Vaccine Deaths WITHIN FIRST 90 DAYS

Here's the actual document.
https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads...experience.pdf

The FDA has drug its feet on this saying they can only release 500 pages a month...which means they will finally fully comply in the year 2076. Thank heavens we have a fully transparent government. I'd hate to see how long it would be if they didn't want to release the info.


The chart above is a screen capture I made from page 7 of the report. Some things stand out to me, unfortunately.

• 1223 people died in the first 90 days from the vaccine by the FDA's own admission.
• 11361 had not recovered from an adverse effect.
• General disorders and administration site conditions doesn't sound eye popping, but these don't sound like redness and soreness at the injection site.
  
  • Nervous system disorders - 25,957???
  • Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders - 17,283???
  • Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders - 8,848???
  • Infections and infestations - 4610. What kind of "infestation"????
  • Poisoning???

But the "vaccine" or experimental gene altering injection is totally safe they say. Remember, this info was only released by court order. They wanted to keep you from knowing it.

Due to the large numbers ofspontaneous adverse event reports received for the product, the MAH has prioritised theprocessing of serious cases, in order to meet expedited regulatory reporting timelines andensure these reports are available for signal detection and evaluation activity

Cumulatively, through 28 February 2021, there was a total of 42,086 case reports (25,379medically confirmed and 16,707 non-medically confirmed) containing 158,893 events. Mostcases (34,762) were received from United States (13,739), United Kingdom (13,404) Italy(2,578), Germany (1913), France (1506), Portugal (866) and Spain (756); the remaining7,324 were distributed among 56 other countries.

Now knowing your sources are totally reliable, unbiased and truthful...when have you ever heard of over 13,000 cases of adverse effects happening as a result of the "vaccine" in your country? It's hard to knock the source when it is the FDA and Pfizer.

Now go line up for your booster shot and see if you're "lucky".

[TheMeteor]

And you guys still can't explain how 4000 people have been able to get jammed into a room together...without masks...without vaccinations..........and not catch COVID.

Sincere question....you are saying your church is comprised of 4000 people and none are vaccinated?

[Daboo]

Sincere question....you are saying your church is comprised of 4000 people and none are vaccinated?

We have 4000+ people in our church, but I would say that at the most 60% are vaccinated. Of the seniors, I know of only a couple who are vaccinated. Only about 10% wear a mask. We've been meeting without masks for about 9 months in close quarters.

And we're not getting sick.

[BoxerBits]

We have 4000+ people in our church, but I would say that at the most 60% are vaccinated. Of the seniors, I know of only a couple who are vaccinated. Only about 10% wear a mask. We've been meeting without masks for about 9 months in close quarters.

And we're not getting sick.

So to summarise, the population size is 4000, a vaccination uptake rate of 60% with high levels of social interaction and your personal observation indicates a very low levels of any illness.

Might this be the evidence that the vaccine works, or at the very least does no harm?


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[Daboo]

Might this be the evidence that the vaccine works, or at the very least does no harm?

That would be one conclusion, Nigel, and one I'd like to embrace. Sigh...but I can't.

Let's break down that sentence. "Might this be the evidence that the vaccine works". The government's own statements say the "vaccines" don't provide any lasting protection. Hence the boosters. The church has been pretty open for probably 10 months now, longer than any claimed "vaccine" effectiveness. Months ago, the "vaccine's" effectiveness should be nil.

The second part of the statement, "or at the very least does no harm?". I wish. Initially the reports of injuries and deaths from the vaccine were dismissed as conspiracy theories. That FDA report above puts the lie to any claim that the vaccines are safe. It's amazing to me that in the first release of the report, it includes data from the FDA and Pfizer that a lot of people have died and been seriously injured. What amazes me is the despicable corruptness of the people controlling the information, because they know this...and they are still pushing 100% vaccination. And you wonder why the FDA report can't be released now...instead of over the next 55 years. What are they hiding from you and I?

Then there's the VAERS report. Here's a quote from https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...orting-system/

On a recent episode of “The Defender” podcast, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. interviewed data scientist and immunology researcher Jessica Rose, Ph.D., about the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and what it tells us about COVID vaccine injuries, especially among children..“VAERS is telling a very frightening story,” Rose told Kennedy.
VAERS data show 618,548 adverse event reports (as of Oct. 29), but that number doesn’t account for under-reporting, explained Rose. (As of Nov. 19, the latest VAERS data show 664,745 adverse events, excluding foreign reports).
“If you consider the under-reporting factor, which I’ve based on the Pfizer phase 3 clinical data — which is probably questionable data anyway — the under-reporting factor is 31,” she said. So to get an accurate count of adverse events, “you need to multiply the VAERS numbers by at least 31,” Rose explained. “It’s really staggering. We’re in the millions.”

There's no way to interpret any of that as "safe".

So while I'd like to say that proves the "vaccines" are safe...I don't think we can make that conclusion at all.


I'd like to bring up something else that concerns me. I don't like to bring this up, because many people have lost loved ones in the last two years. It's a sensitive subject and for good reason.

In the beginning we read with horror the spread of COVID as it ravaged the internal organs of people and how when people were put on ventilators, they never recovered and they died. There's more and more evidence that Remdesivir, besides being extremely expensive and profitable for drug companies...has severe side effects that cause the liver and kidneys to fail. From the NIH, "Remdesivir can also induce significant cytotoxic effects in cardiomyocytes that is considerably worse than chloroquine cardiotoxic effects." Meanwhile, physicians prescribing treatments like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin can lose their licenses by prescribing it. But hundreds of members of Congress and their families had no problem using it.

I've read numerous articles from medical professionals that the worst thing you can do is put someone on a ventilator. Like the info above that was treated as a conspiracy theory originally is now getting some visibility.

Could it be that the treatment protocols were designed to make the virus seem more deadly? And increase the mortality to manipulate us? All the while making new billionaires?

What if the people orchestrating the Great Reset have manipulated the situation to use it for their purposes and deliberately made things worse?

Chris