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    It looks like BMW might be getting ready to introduce another electric motorcycle to their lineup: https://www.motorcycle.com/mini-feat...roduction.html
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    It has arrived: Here is a link to an article regarding BMW's latest electric scooter, the CE 04. I wonder if that seat is as hard as it looks? The automatically-applied parking brake that functions when the side stand is deployed is a good idea. The TFT instrument display screen is a nice touch. At 504 pounds, it certainly is no lightweight. And of course, being a BMW there will be extra-cost factory features, such as are on the "Premium" version that will set you back an additional $1,650 over the base price of $11,795 in the U.S.

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    Here is a link to the official factory spin about their new scooter. Definitely not the prettiest vehicle I have ever seen. And what is up with that orange fly screen?: https://electricmotorcycles.news/the...e-04-unveiled/
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    Goodness gracious me ..... that is a bit of a challenge in the visual department.
    Its heavy -- range ok for commuting but I would like to go a bit further than a 40 mile radius on a rideout without making a coffee last 1 to 4 hours.
    Darn't look up the price .......

    I have done .... it'll be £10,000 or £12,000 in good old British pounds.
    Thats a lot of beer vouchers for an 80 mile range.

    At the moment I can't see how a motor/battery capable of giving the performance of a 125bhp bike with a 200mile range (like the GS) and be small enough and light enough to actualy be fun ?

    Ok 250kg for 80 miles on the scooter ..... a rough guess suggests 500kg (ish) for 100+ bhp at 100 mile range.
    Are we realy talking 500kg plus for a decent range?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogbody View Post
    Goodness gracious me ..... that is a bit of a challenge in the visual department.
    Its heavy -- range ok for commuting but I would like to go a bit further than a 40 mile radius on a rideout without making a coffee last 1 to 4 hours.
    Darn't look up the price .......

    I have done .... it'll be £10,000 or £12,000 in good old British pounds.
    Thats a lot of beer vouchers for an 80 mile range.

    At the moment I can't see how a motor/battery capable of giving the performance of a 125bhp bike with a 200mile range (like the GS) and be small enough and light enough to actualy be fun ?

    Ok 250kg for 80 miles on the scooter ..... a rough guess suggests 500kg (ish) for 100+ bhp at 100 mile range.
    Are we realy talking 500kg plus for a decent range?

    My Zero has gone 150 miles on a single battery charge, but at an average speed of about 45 mph. Zeros, the H-D LiveWire and Energicas will travel between 80 and 100 miles at 70 mph. But by then their battery pack is on its lasts legs and will require about 10 or 12 hours to recharge at a 120V outlet, half that time or less at a commercial 240V outlet and around 90 minutes at an L3 DC fast charging station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogbody View Post
    Goodness gracious me ..... that is a bit of a challenge in the visual department.
    Its heavy -- range ok for commuting but I would like to go a bit further than a 40 mile radius on a rideout without making a coffee last 1 to 4 hours.
    Darn't look up the price .......

    I have done .... it'll be £10,000 or £12,000 in good old British pounds.
    Thats a lot of beer vouchers for an 80 mile range.

    At the moment I can't see how a motor/battery capable of giving the performance of a 125bhp bike with a 200mile range (like the GS) and be small enough and light enough to actualy be fun ?

    Ok 250kg for 80 miles on the scooter ..... a rough guess suggests 500kg (ish) for 100+ bhp at 100 mile range.
    Are we realy talking 500kg plus for a decent range?
    Until battery tech becomes lightweight and more compact, it'll not take off. Plus (as far as i know) they're exempt from the EV rules that are upcoming as Bikes are generally pretty economical, and are not a huge contributor to vehicle pollution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ123 View Post
    Until battery tech becomes lightweight and more compact, it'll not take off. Plus (as far as i know) they're exempt from the EV rules that are upcoming as Bikes are generally pretty economical, and are not a huge contributor to vehicle pollution.
    And, more importantly, they don't make enough noise to irritate your neighbors or government regulators or legislators.
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    The problem is, it goes the other way. They'll say they are too quiet and they nearly get run over as they can't hear them coming
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ123 View Post
    The problem is, it goes the other way. They'll say they are too quiet and they nearly get run over as they can't hear them coming
    I have been riding electric motorcycles for the past 12 years and that has never been a problem for me. The only time I have had to brake hard to avoid someone is when a pushbike rider decides to make a U-turn right in front of me without looking back as I am riding along the highway. Apparently, they believe that there is no one else on the road than them. And oddly, if you toot your horn as you come up on a bicycle rider to let them know you are there, they get upset and flip you off.
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    Long Way Home has a few funny words to say about BMW's new CE 04 electric scooter, including that BMW will no longer be building gas-powered scooters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jenhOJaea98
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    Here is one place that you won't want to visit to recharge your CE 04. You think gas prices are high? Check out the kWh prices on this charging station somewhere in Scotland that I plucked off of the Electric Motorcycle Forum. Two pounds per kWh for the first 3 hours and then 10 pounds per kWh after three hours. I thought I had high electric power costs at home at 26 cents per kWh. As the person who posted that photo said, that is one way to make sure that no one will use your EV charging facility.
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