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    Hi everybody, this Jose Garca from Spain.

    Happy to announce that if all goes well I will be participating in next Dakar.

    It will be my fourth Dakar, 2006 in Africa with BMW 650, 2011 and 2016 in South America with BMW 450 with Touratech kit.

    I just bought a BMW 450 with 4.000 kms coming with a brand new Speedbrain kit, I will receive it in the coming days.

    Since there are big experts on this bike in this forum your help would be very valuable for improving the bikes performance and more important the reliability, all advice will be very appreciated! Already thanks Bello650 for your info and advice

    I never had an oil cooler in my 450, highly recommended? Best model?

    This is my website www.aventuradakar.es, sorry only in spanish

    Apart from getting the bike, right now I am focused on physical training and the most difficult trying to find sponsors for the project.

    Cheers

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    Awesome to see the bike still competing. Variant is still being ran by Hero Motorsports, supported by Speedbrain. Wonder what those guys will think of their original showing up.
    Post up some pics of the old and new bike.
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    Hello Jose,
    You are in the right place for the database of knowledge for the bike.
    oil cooler kit bolt on original oil filter from NL design
    https://www.facebook.com/nldesigncc/...29056787177173

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    Quote Originally Posted by SchillerM View Post
    Awesome to see the bike still competing. Variant is still being ran by Hero Motorsports, supported by Speedbrain. Wonder what those guys will think of their original showing up.
    Post up some pics of the old and new bike.
    Pics from the 450 in Dakar 2011 and 2016 you can see them on the website www.aventuradakar.es, as soon as I receive the bike I will post some pics

    Speedbrain not very impressed or willing to help I wrote and email and no answer, I will try to contact them through a spanish friend who goes to Dakar with Hero team. Willing to hear their advice but I think within this forum I can find all that info from helpful enthusiasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bello650 View Post
    Hello Jose,
    You are in the right place for the database of knowledge for the bike.
    oil cooler kit bolt on original oil filter from NL design
    https://www.facebook.com/nldesigncc/...29056787177173

    Thanks Pascal, I just asked him.

    Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanish Beemer View Post
    Pics from the 450 in Dakar 2011 and 2016 you can see them on the website www.aventuradakar.es, as soon as I receive the bike I will post some pics

    Speedbrain not very impressed or willing to help I wrote and email and no answer, I will try to contact them through a spanish friend who goes to Dakar with Hero team. Willing to hear their advice but I think within this forum I can find all that info from helpful enthusiasts.

    Try here: http://fransverhoeven.com
    Frans has already done the Dakar with the G450X : https://allroadmaniacs.nl/forum/index.php?topic=9750.30
    and Bianchi Prata has already done the Dakar with the G450X : : https://www.bianchiprata.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by bello650 View Post
    Try here: http://fransverhoeven.com
    Frans has already done the Dakar with the G450X : https://allroadmaniacs.nl/forum/index.php?topic=9750.30
    and Bianchi Prata has already done the Dakar with the G450X : : https://www.bianchiprata.com
    Thanks!!

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    Bike leaving Belgium to Madrid with a new Speedbrain kit!! This is the bike I just bought for next
    Dakar.

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    A new Speedbrain kit?!? Where did you find that? They have any more?
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    From Belgium? If I knew, I would have been to see her before she left for Spain. Who are selling this G450X with the Speedbrain kit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bello650 View Post
    From Belgium? If I knew, I would have been to see her before she left for Spain. Who are selling this G450X with the Speedbrain kit?
    Piet Lievens, very nice guy!! Bike with only 4.000 kms

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    Hi Jose,
    honestly wishing you all the best. As already mentioned in FB, I 'd be thrilled to see again our bike in a top world race like the Dakar again! It would be a straight proof that it still holds strong and keeps its reliability....
    Your effort is targeting all like myself 40y something who didn't have the chance (yet) to participate in this dream race and for a bike that was not given the opportunity to prove its high abilities due to the short life that was given....
    I still cannot believe that you were able to get in hand a new speedbrain kit! How could you get do that? Despite all my efforts, I ended up with nothing. This is why I finally installed a rear safari tank and a custom fairing kit by "perfect fairings", that I've already posted details here.

    Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by alevbas View Post
    Hi Jose,
    honestly wishing you all the best. As already mentioned in FB, I 'd be thrilled to see again our bike in a top world race like the Dakar again! It would be a straight proof that it still holds strong and keeps its reliability....
    Your effort is targeting all like myself 40y something who didn't have the chance (yet) to participate in this dream race and for a bike that was not given the opportunity to prove its high abilities due to the short life that was given....
    I still cannot believe that you were able to get in hand a new speedbrain kit! How could you get do that? Despite all my efforts, I ended up with nothing. This is why I finally installed a rear safari tank and a custom fairing kit by "perfect fairings", that I've already posted details here.

    Good luck
    Bill
    Thanks a lot Bill!! Intensive months ahead, lots of training and looking for sponsors, getting to the star line of Dakar is as hard as the rally itself

    Roadbook training this weekend https://www.facebook.com/jose.m.garciadominguez.3

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    Hi Jose,
    just for information, what issues did you have with the Touratech set up you used in Dakar 2016, in order to decide now to go with the speedbrain kit?
    Also, don't forget to upload some pics, once you finish the installation!

    Keep up your great effort!
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    Quote Originally Posted by alevbas View Post
    Hi Jose,
    just for information, what issues did you have with the Touratech set up you used in Dakar 2016, in order to decide now to go with the speedbrain kit?
    Also, don't forget to upload some pics, once you finish the installation!

    Keep up your great effort!
    BR
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    Hi Bill, I also used the touratech kit in Dakar 2011, the TT kit is not as reliable, the mounting brackets to the chasis always give problems, problems with the rear tank to get the gas to the main tank. It is good kit but not for rally Dakar whick is very, very demanding for mechanics.

    Lets see how the speedbrain works

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    You might want to change the bracket that's holding the rear-fender, or bring some spares. I've never seen one that was not broken. The tank itself has some flex in it that passes al lot of vibrations through to the rearfender. (and to your butt, by the way; especialy at low revs, it is hard to focus the eyes because of the vibrations...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Jay View Post
    You might want to change the bracket that's holding the rear-fender, or bring some spares. I've never seen one that was not broken. The tank itself has some flex in it that passes al lot of vibrations through to the rearfender. (and to your butt, by the way; especialy at low revs, it is hard to focus the eyes because of the vibrations...)
    Hi Evert, I didnt read the message before, what bracket do you use? I still havent mounted the kit so I dont know which bracket you are talking about, you have any photos?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanish Beemer View Post
    Hi Evert, I didnt read the message before, what bracket do you use? I still havent mounted the kit so I dont know which bracket you are talking about, you have any photos?

    Thanks

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    on the picture it is the triangulair connection on the right; the one that connects the rearfender to the tank:

    http://g450riders.org/forum/attachme...6&d=1445502254

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Jay View Post
    You might want to change the bracket that's holding the rear-fender, or bring some spares. I've never seen one that was not broken. The tank itself has some flex in it that passes al lot of vibrations through to the rearfender. (and to your butt, by the way; especialy at low revs, it is hard to focus the eyes because of the vibrations...)
    Some of the inserts in my tank are missing, it looks like they’ve been ripped off. Can you give me an address to buy new and a solution to fix them because the hole in the tank seems too big for the same one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bello650 View Post
    Some of the inserts in my tank are missing, it looks like theyve been ripped off. Can you give me an address to buy new and a solution to fix them because the hole in the tank seems too big for the same one.
    Google is your friend: try "inserts for plastic".
    Nevertheless: when new from the factory inserts in plastics are fine, but after a while the bolts tend to get stuck in the inserts, and when trying to loosen them you rip out the inserts. If you find a solution i'll be happy to hear it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Jay View Post
    You might want to change the bracket that's holding the rear-fender, or bring some spares. I've never seen one that was not broken. The tank itself has some flex in it that passes al lot of vibrations through to the rearfender. (and to your butt, by the way; especialy at low revs, it is hard to focus the eyes because of the vibrations...)
    There is a version in 2010 and another 2015 of the kit. I have the mounting bracket 2010 with a welded reinforcement and with angle along the brace. It is not exactly the same like the flat metal mounting bracket in the picture (2/3) of the assembly instructions 2010. Following the picture (3/3) from the 2015 version there seems to be an additional support underneath the mounting black bracket but to be able to fix it would require an extra insert in the tank I think. What is the part of the mounting bracket need to be renforced ?

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    the third one is the best, but indeed: it looks like you need a insert underneath the tank. I dont have that.
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    and you can see where it breaks...

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    ok thank you I see that your support does not have the transversal welded reinforcement. Now I also understand why the lower part of my mounting bracket is missing because I don't have an insert in my tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Jay View Post
    Google is your friend: try "inserts for plastic".
    Nevertheless: when new from the factory inserts in plastics are fine, but after a while the bolts tend to get stuck in the inserts, and when trying to loosen them you rip out the inserts. If you find a solution i'll be happy to hear it...
    filing the hole with this HDPE rod , then use new inserts.
    https://www.amazon.com/Polyethylene-.../dp/B07J5RWCWG

    https://www.atlasplastics.co.uk or equivalent supplier in your country

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    I take note of your messages, this is an important issue to solve. I contacted a spanish friend who raced two Dakars 2011 and 2012 with Speedbrain kit and he showed me how he fixed the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanish Beemer View Post
    I take note of your messages, this is an important issue to solve. I contacted a spanish friend who raced two Dakars 2011 and 2012 with Speedbrain kit and he showed me how he fixed the problem.

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    Exhaust bracket montage assembly 2010 versus 2015

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    Extended swingarm used on Rally by Frans Verhoeven and oil cooler
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    this is another reinforcement made for the rear fender bracket, support made new in alu, reinforced with steel profile

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    Quote Originally Posted by bello650 View Post
    Extended swingarm used on Rally by Frans Verhoeven and oil cooler
    http://fransverhoeven.com

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    I asked Nikalus for an oil cooler and it was very expensive, around 1.000€, and since Arabia climate is not as hot as Southamerica, I think I will go without

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanish Beemer View Post
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    this is another reinforcement made for the rear fender bracket, support made new in alu, reinforced with steel profile
    I would go for the other option. This does not look like an improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanish Beemer View Post
    I asked Nikalus for an oil cooler and it was very expensive, around 1.000€, and since Arabia climate is not as hot as Southamerica, I think I will go without
    The first time in the Dakar the G450X was also starting without an oilcooler. To the regret of everybody involved.
    Indeed; South America looks a lot hotter, but then again: would the factoryteams carry the weight of an oilcooler if they would not need them?
    BTW; did Niklaus solve the problem he had with overspilling oil?

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